FACTS VS. DREAMS (CONT.)
        State Dept diplomats assume that international conflicts are all subject to "resolution" through rational discussion. After all, we and our enemies must share basic assumptions about reality. A therapeutic stance is taken and grievances are addressable through empathy and reason. Yet over and over our enemies let us know they don't share our caring, therapeutic sensibility. Reason, they let us know, is a Western imperialist mode of thought, designed to suppress Muslims. They keep telling us they want to kill us, destroy the infidels, annihilate the hateful Jews, destroy the decadent West. When they demonstrate their seriousness of purpose we respond by redoubling our efforts to explain the benefits of peace, of modernity, as if we had somehow failed to make ourselves clear. In the language of therapy, it's a 'communications problem'. Well, our friends the Saudis will have none of it. A government supported Muslim theologian warns young people: "not to speak English and not to try to study it. He swallowed his saliva, wet his lips, and screamed: 'This is the language of the infidels, to the point where it has the word 'blease' ['please'], which is derived from iblis [Satan]. This is the language of the devil…'" And then we learn, from the indispensable MEMRI, of the Saudi Wahabbi scholar Sheikh Bin Baz who issued a Fatwa which stated that the planet Earth does not rotate!
        While they may wear Saville Row suits, enjoy Western decadent pleasures, and speak with Oxford accents, Saudi Arabia's incestuous rulers draw power from a backward anti-semitic, Islamo-Nazi, America hating death cult, masquerading as a 'religion of peace'. Diplomatic niceties will simply confirm in the minds of these murderous thugs that the West is weak. The very idea that the Palestinians and their Arab friends are victims of cruel Israelis is as delusional as the notion that a Fatwa can establish that the earth doesn't rotate. As long as the West refrains from challenging these ninth century ideas, they will grip the imaginations of the Muslim world and distract it from its own failures. Our State Dept. colludes with the Islamo-Nazis in their fixation on a pre-modern paradise where no Jews, women or infidels get in the way of perfection. No wonder every time our diplomats endorse the fantasy 'roadmap to peace' more innocents die. Such roadmaps encourage terrorists to pursue their goal of a world purified of 'infidels', wherein paradise is attainable for true believers.
You have it just right. Our government is now distracted in out war against terrorism. There is an old saying "if you want to know what a person is thinking, just listen to him." IslamoNazis make no secret of their intent in sermons, broadcasts, editorials, etc. Only our deaf, dumb, and stupid state department don't hear or see it.
Posted by: Ruth King on June 22, 2003 05:51 PMThat Looney El-Baz, I remember back in the mid-80s that Suadi Arabia had one of their Air force polits trained as an astronuat. The U.S. at the time was big on "the internationalzation of Space" glady accepted him for on of the Space Shuttle Mission.
He was qualitfied, and the Govt of Suadi Arabia paid for his lengthy training. Finally His day came. He Went to outer Space on an american shuttle. At the time it was portraied in the media as evidance of Saudi working on the advancement of science.
What was the important scientific expraments that the Saudi goverment sponsered for outer space reasearch? Something Advanced no doubt, some truly cutting edge high tech it must be.
Well, later it was discovered that all this effort was to send a muslim in outer space to take a picture of the planet earth. This picture was to be shown to this same foam at the month looney tunes Sheik el-Baz. In an attempt to prove to him the earth was round.. He is not looney for nothing
He still refused to revoke his fatwa.
That any sensable person would give this El-baz fellow the time of day is beyond me. Giving respect to people living in primative times they are in the 9th century and will squat there until they wake up
Posted by: David Scarbrough on June 22, 2003 08:08 PMCalling English the
language of the Devil reminds me of an old humerous Spanish story "el idioma del diablo" whose basis premise that the vowels and pronounciation of English were diabolically difficult. Of course one factor that has restrained the growth of Islam as a civilization and as a religion has been the insistence, so to speak, that God is an Arab and that the Koran is the eternal word of God (i.e. it existed BEFORE the Hebrew scriptures or the New Testament which are in the Islamic view merely corrupted man-made doctrines and therefore virtual forgeries.
The ignorance which claims that English words such as please which is ultimately a Latinate root from the Latin word PLACERE "to please" would really be unbelievable if one did not know the source. There is no doubt in my mind that this xenophobic nationalistic hatred of Americans and Jews is a false sect of Islam influenced by German and Nazi translations and propaganda of the first half of the 20th century. One can hope that most Muslims are moderate but the fact remains that all Muslims believe in the unity of their faith and hence all elements of Islam are open to and susceptible to conversion to this fundamentalist message of hatred and bigotry. Only through the modernization of their economies and educational system can there be any hope for a reconcilation and era of peaceful coexistence.
True civilization and true science knows no language barrier. In the future as today and as in the past "only the educated will be free" while the ignorant will wander in the dark night of superstition and backwardness.
Posted by: Ricardo Munro on June 22, 2003 11:05 PMToo right.
Posted by: Keith on June 29, 2003 07:55 PMI have a feeling that, ultimately, the challenge to "these ninth-century ideas" will have to be in the form of a 20th century thermonuclear statement.
Over the top? I don't think so.The first Western city to be laid waste by a biological or nuclear attack will make the point. And it's only a matter of "when", not "if".